Yesterday, the IDF posted a 29-second Youtube version of an audio exchange– not long before an assault at sea, and part of the set piece of theatrics that had to take place for this drama to play out according to script — between Israeli Navy radio officers and what the IDF initially said was the Mavi Marmara, the large Turkish passenger ship (chartered by IHH, a Turkish humanitarian relief NGO with a distinct Islamist character that has opened it to accusations of having “terrorist” ties) that had least 600 trusting souls on board.
The IDF Youtube appeared to be clearly doctored — a crude, adolescent attempt at triumphalist propaganda.
The Mavi Marmara was by far the largest of the six boats in the Freedom Flotilla travelling in convoy towards Gaza to “break the siege” and deliver humanitarian aid there. It was way too large to be disabled at sea, apparently. (And then what would you do with the 600 people on board?)
Because some of those on the top deck were unaware of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs legal argument that the badly-announced and poorly-clarified Israeli naval blockade of Gaza’s maritime space could be enforced virtually anywhere, certainly on the high seas, they were somehow shocked and surprised when a large Israeli naval force — including three Saar missile boats — suddenly appeared on the horizon just before midnight.
They were still several hours away from Gaza, and the night was still young.
The live internet feed streaming on the web from the Mavi Marmara showed passengers donning life vests, and holding gas masks.
Then, they waited. A journalist reported that “some people were praying, some were smoking”. They were all sweating. (And there were no showers on board.)
There had been hints (sheer bravado) about special preparations to resist. When — and we learned this only after the ordeal was several days over, and the passengers finally released — the men gathered on the top deck managed to repel an initial Israeli attempt by sea to board and take over the vessel, the Mavi Marmara became the target of special attention from the large Israel assault force ordered to stop the Freedom Flotilla at any and all costs.
Those on board, after all, had already been labelled as extremely dangerous “terrorists” or friends of terrorists, Muslim fanatics — not aid workers, bitter enemies of the Jewish state. Indereed, many of the passengers came from countries, and cultures, which are highly critical of Israeli policies, where they would have had very little or no interaction with Israelis, or even with Jews.
What was scornfully dismissed as a “publicity stunt” became an existential threat.
A second wave of a handful of young Israeli commandos descended one-by-one, rappelling down on ropes into a furious crowd full of adrenalin rushing through their veins, who set upon them and beat them badly. Tear gas and stun grenades were used, then live ammunition.
What can only be described as battlefield conditions ensued, in the middle of a crowded passenger ship… And there appeared to be reprisals exacted. There was no pity, no understanding, and very little regard for the humanity of those on board — many of whom travelled in family groups, testifying to their politico-religious beliefs, as if they were going on a pilgrimage…
Could the reports be true that one Israeli soldier killed six men? And that he’s up for a special combat medal as a result?
At least nine men (one, a 19-year-old student) were killed, all by multiple bullet wounds, some from very close range. That is what we know of, so far.
One wife cradled her wounded and bleeding husband in her arms until he died. Then, after a few minutes, she turned to help other wounded. And then she was dragged through the police procedures and taken to prison, even as she mourned.
There was world-wide condemnation of the use of this kind of military force. But a polar-opposite reaction (defiance?) in Israel and among its fervent supporters.
IDF-filmed videos of the assault on the Mavi Marmara were the top three draws on Youtube by the end of the week (though not all of the surge of viewers were loyal admirers).
Then, videos appeared that were clearly edited versions of material taken n behalf of various news organizations by journalists who were still being held in Israeli detention. The Foreign Press Association in Israel, the Committee to Protect Journalists, and Reporters without Borders all protested.
Finally, on Friday, the IDF put out the 29-second version — of a 1:06 minute video it had uploaded to Youtube a day or so earlier, but with a very different soundtrack.
The original, longer (1’06” version had the long explanation of the naval blockade and the procedures the Israelis were demanding, including that they turn back or prepare to be boarded. It ended with this brief response from the ship (identified, incorrectly, it later emerged, as the Mavi Marmara): “Negative. Negative. Our destination is Gaza“.
The shorter, 29-second, “doctored” version had this incongruous response coming from the Flotilla ship — the voices at all different levels, clearly indicating that this was not the actual version of events (transcript via Ali Abunimah):
MAN’S VOICE 1: “Shut up, go back to Auschwitz.”
WOMAN’S VOICE: (calm) “We have permission from the Gaza Port Authority to enter.”
MAN’S VOICE 2: “We’re helping Arabs go against the US, don’t forget 9/11, guys…”
I was among those who protested what appeared to be a shameful attempt at manipulation and incitement, and I demanded clarification and correction.
Tonight, the IDF posted its clarification, here, which says: “Yesterday evening on 4 June 2010, the IDF released an audio recording of a radio transmission between the Israeli Navy vessel and the Flotilla ships wherein unidentified flotilla passengers tell the Israeli Navy vessel to “Shut up, go back to Auschwitz” and “We’re helping Arabs go against the US, don’t forget 9/11.” There have been questions regarding the authenticity of the recording as well as its attribution to a communication with the Mavi Marmara. So to clarify: the audio was edited down to cut out periods of silence over the radio as well as incomprehensible comments so as to make it easier for people to listen to the exchange. We have now uploaded the entire segment of 5 minutes and 58 seconds in which the exchange took place and the comments were made. This transmission had originally cited the Mavi Marmara ship as being the source of these remarks, however, due to an open channel, the specific ship or ships in the ‘Freedom Flotilla’ responding to the Israeli Navy could not be identified. During radio transmissions between Israeli Navy and the ships of the ‘Free Gaza’ Flotilla on 31 May 2010, the Israeli Navy ship attempts to make contact with the ‘Defne Y’ on channel 1-6. Other ships from the flotilla respond on the channel, without identifying themselves. At some point during the radio exchange the Israeli Navy is told by one of the ships to ‘Shut up, go back to Auschwitz’ (2:05) and ‘don’t forget 9-11’ (5:42)”.
The IDF admitted tonight that the audio was edited — but this should have been stated when the edited version was posted and presented to the public.
[ADD – a comment on Max Blumenthal’s blog posting <a href=”http://maxblumenthal.com/2010/06/idf-admits-it-doctored-flotilla-audio-clip-washington-posts-kessler-must-retract/>here</a>, by spuxx, notes: “One other lie the IDF have made, is that the audio was originally edited down to remove radio silences. In the shorter audio version, Huwaida Arraf only utters one short sentence ‘we have permission from the Gaza Port Authority to enter’. In the new longer clip, it is revealed she utters 3 or 4 sentences as part of this exchange. If her comments were edited down as apparent ‘radio silence’, how can we believe that the other voices in the recording weren’t also manipulated. I would like to see the IDF spokeskman have to add another cavat, namely that whole sentences as well as radio silence where cut from audio tape“…]
And, the IDF admitted that this Israeli Navy communication was not with the Mavi Marmara, but with at least one other of the six ships in the Freedom Flotilla. It mentioned the Dafne (or Defne) Y — and it suggested the possibility that voices from other ships in the Flotilla may have mixed in.
It did not suggest one very real possibility — that some of those voices came from persons who were not on any of the ships in the Flotilla.
I am prepared to accept that what the IDF is now calling the unedited audio is, in fact, unedited (though there are plenty of wierd audio moments that could hide an edit, if someone really wanted to be manipulative). But, as I noted in a comment elsewhere earlier, I am going to believe the IDF’s sincerity on that. [However, see below, Huwaida Arraf has now told Ma’an News Agency that she did not say those words during this Freedom Flotilla expedition, but may have done so on earlier Free Gaza expeditions…]
The real point, still standing in utterly unproven suspense, is that there is absolutely no evidence that all the voices on that video were coming from the Freedom Flotilla. Some of the ugly things said could very well have been malicious provocation.
This happens all the time. In the Persian Gulf, US warships are taunted in radio communications all the time. There was very nearly a serious incident once when a US commander thought that the taunts were coming from Iranian naval vessels — but they were finally blamed on a notorious and known private provocateur.
The confrontation between the Israeli Navy and the Freedom Flotilla took place in international waters — off the coast of Israel. A number of private Israeli boats launched themselves out to sea days earlier to try to counteract the propaganda advantage they felt the Freedom Flotilla had gained.
There are all kinds of boats out in that area. Those voices could have come from any yahoos or woo-hoos — including malicious ones, trying to cause maximum damage — who were bobbing around on that sea, at that time.
So, no, this is the reason I cannot concede that the IDF has either proven its point (that the people on board the Mavi Marmara were reckless lunatic fanatics), or that the IDF has won this argument.
ADD: Ma’an News Agency added another dimension. It followed up, today, on Ali Abunimah’s report last night that the woman whose voice was included in the IDF video was identified by her husband (Adam Shapiro) as Huwaida Arraf. Ma’an reported that “Arraf, a Palestinian-American who chairs the Free Gaza Movement, confirmed that it was her voice. But she emphasized that she was on the Challenger 1 boat, not the Mavi Marmara. ‘I was by the radio the whole time there was any communication’, Arraf told Ma’an. ‘Mine was the only boat in which I answered and not the captain and they all answered in a very professional manner’. Arraf told Ma’an that while she might have spoken of having permission from the Gaza Port Authority on a previous attempt to break the blockade, she is certain that she did not say it on Monday morning. ‘When they radioed us, we were still 100 miles away’,”she said. ‘There’s no doubt that this whole thing they put out is fabricated’.” This Ma’an News Agency report is posted here.
38 thoughts on “The IDF posts "unedited" version of "doctored" audio”
They keep spinning , don’t they? I guess they are losing their touch to blindside the public.
What can I say- I’m reading your notices and I can not comprehend how clever and intelligent women like you, are trying to find all possible excuses in order to stay in your paradigm: all what is coming from Israel is the lie, falsification or deception. And only truth coming from other side.
It couldn’t be you blindly follow this way. It’s like I’m telling you: see, Marian, the Earth is sphere. No, you answering, it couldn’t be the sphere, it’s a flat. And it’s doesn’t matter, how many facts I will bring to you- you will never agree.
I’m really disappointed!
What even worse, that most of world’s public opinion is like yours.
You know, nikkor, what I wrote is not that the IDF lies… though it did “edit” without mentioning it. No, I said I would accept what they said in their clarification. But, I then said, they have not explained all the realistic and reasonable possibilities — including the very clear chance that some of the voices on those tapes came from completely other boats (not the Flotilla, not the IDF). What about all those Israeli boats who sailed out to “educate” the Flotilla, for example? No chance none of them were there, watching (the way many Israelis went to the hilltop outside Gaza to watch the spectacle of Operation Cast Lead)? No chance that some of those deckchair commandos would have access to the communications channels? No way they might have enjoyed contributing to the mayhem? How can you rule that out? People were killed, lives were lost, and there was an immense amount of suffering on board the Mavi Marmara and afterwards, too.. There is too much pain to let this go. I am not telling you the sphere is flat. I can’t take easy or comforting explanations on blind faith.
With all this pain- it’s no excuse for you, Marian, to write half-truth, it’s worse than lie!
Maybe what I wrote was truth-and-a-half … do you see anyone else suggesting that the voices came from other ships besides the Flotilla? Yet, my (journalistic) instinct tells me that the truth lies there, or in that direction.
Marian, please look at this video, read the text under it and try to be honest. Is it so impossible that a person from this particular ship said “Go back to Auschwitz”, and 9/11 etc.?
And if you just make a very tiny research about IHH (not really research, but actually a google search), you will find that not the Islamic character has opened it to accusations of having “terrorist” ties. It does have terrorist ties, in reality.
I will not tell you where to search. Take it as a challenge and as a self test. Is your (journalistic) instinct ready to face the truth that may be other than you think? Is your (intellectual) honesty mature enough to be able to admit that you may be wrong?
Oh, and then there’s that little matter of Huwaida Arraf’s comment — which she says she might have said on a previous Free Gaza expedition (as I recall she did), but definitely did not say on Monday morning…
Lie- it’s very interesting thing: once you started to lie, you never can be considered reliable/impartial source of information.
The Ma’an- isn’t impartial source.
I don’t want your blog will be the platform for such kind of lies.
I will explain myself.
You wrote Huwaida Arraf (one of Free Gaza Movement leader) told to Ma’an she indeed was on the radio that night, but she denied she said that word we can here on IDF audio. You apparently believe her, and you starting to fiction all kinds of reason this audio might be manipulated by mysterious third side (neither IDF, neither flotilla).
What Huwaida Arraf saying: “we are six ships flotilla”. Free Gaza Movements took number of attempts to “break the siege”:
Aug 2008- 2 ships
Oct 2008- 1 ship
Dec 2008- 1 ship
Jan 2009-1 ship
June 2009- 1 ship
So, she only could to say “we are six ships flotilla” 31 May 2010.
Case number one is closed: the Ma’an report is the lie, and Huwaida Arraf indeed said that night what we heard on IDF audio.
Case number two: there was second flotilla from Israel that night and there were the people interfere on the radio communications.
The night of flotilla have been boarded, Israeli navy closed all the area from all the ships. There is no chance, the Navy will allow some private yacht to be in vicinity of the “battle”- and no matter what flag they would flying.
The communication on IDF audio was held on marine VHF channel 16- it’s 156.8 Mhz. But VHF radio wave propagate only to the horizon, it can be transmitted and heard from tens miles away.
So, all what we hear on IDF radio it can be transmitted from it very surrounding, and it’s very unlikely that there were another ships, except Israel Navy and flotilla ships.
Bottom line: the IDF audio have includes this anti-Semitic and anti-American stuff and this have been said by the flotilla people.
Nikkor, my argument starts from this: I have agreed to accept that the IDF “clarification” is, as they stated, the full and “unedited” audio exchange between the Israeli Navy and the Flotilla (and not just with the Mavi Marmara, as the IDF initially stated, incorrectly — as they admitted). My colleagues in the media do not all accept the IDF “clarification”. But, my instinct is to accept that it is not another manipulated edit. OK. Then, my analysis, which was written immediately after I read the IDF “clarification” post, and which I expressed initially in reply to your earlier comment last night on another comment on this blog, was that I am not satisfied. I am not satisfied with the IDF easy reasoning that all the voices it recorded on the full 5-minute-plus tape are from passengers and partipants in the Flotilla. The IDF, and the Israeli government, and pro-Israeli NGOs and think tanks, and much of the Israeli public wants us all to believe that the Mavi Marmara and perhaps some of the other six ships travelling together in a convoy on Monday 30 May were filled with hate. They want us to accept that this audio is the proof. But it is not. Not the Israeli Navy (nor the whole of the Israeli government) could have closed the international waters where the Flotilla was intercepted. There were plenty of other vessels, commercial and otherwise, in those waters at that time. My theory is that some of the voices recorded by the IDF on that audio tape come from persons on other boats (not the Israeli Navy ships, and not the Flotilla) at that time. This happens all the time. It happened to the US Navy in the Persian Gulf. And it probably happened here — if, IF, we are to believe that the longer audio released in the IDF clarification is “unedited”.
There is no dispute that those remarks were anti-Semitic, ugly incitement. But, by who?
There is no proof that those remarks were made by people on board the Flotilla ships.
ADD: I think I am prepared to concede your point no. 1 (at least, in part — I have to go back to the video again, which I don’t have time to do right now, but I think there were two parts to her recorded remarks, and the second part is what I recall I heard her say on an earlier Free-Gaza-only expedition).
The flotilla people were caught on lies (see Huwaida Arraf ), and you just ignore this fact, that it was a lot of hate on Mavi Marmara ( I have no 100% evidences about other ships)
How I wish that one of my transatlantic or other international moves hadn’t necessitated my throwing away all my Shariat Madari books…
I really feel allergic to the term “terrorist” because of the ideological and bullying way it is used. (Though I do know terror when I see — or experience — it).
No, I still haven’t been convinced that someone on board the Freedom Flotilla told anyone to “Go back to Auschwicz”
At least, please update in your articles that Ma’an report is probably lie. I found several internet sites cited your “research” as un-questionable truth fact.
There are several internet sites that cited my “research” as “un-questionable truth”? Really?
They didn’t cite Ma’an? Maybe that’s good enough?
An update from the Free Gaza website: “…According to our Captain of Challenger 1, Denis Healey, a man with 25 years of experience on the sea, there would be no way that anyone could communicate with each other without the entire fleet hearing the exchange. ‘There was no exchange like this by anyone on any boat during the entire time I was piloting the boat’, said Denis. Huwaida Arraf, the woman you hear on the radio, concurred. ‘The open channel is always the open channel, and everyone knows who is on the radio’. All radio transmissions on the sea are heard by all captains“…
Did Huwaida conceded she had lied to Ma’an?
And all what was recorded on that tape was said by her?
I must give her a call.
I still haven’t listened to the 5’58” tape again — I’ll try to force myself to do it now.
Someone referring to Jihadwatch , how unbiased?
Robert Spencer from Opus Dei !!!!!!!!!
I wish someone could tell us if that video has been complied without “doctoring”…
You should check the IP address comments on your site. You are being taken over by the Hasbara gang – read up on the Megaphone Project.
Don’t waste your time debating their opinions or propaganda.
Yul, is there a list of Hasbara IP addresses?
“Yul, is there a list of Hasbara IP addresses?”
the easiest way to deal with someone point of view, that is differ from yours, it’s to call it propaganda.
Just look on facts, Yul!
Someone referring to Ali Abuminah, founder of the website Electronic Intifada, how unbiased?
Nikkor, I know you are trying to get me to say something bad about Ma’an, but do you really think that we should only talk to, or refer to, “unbiased” persons??
The Ali Abunimah report that Ma’an refers to is here:
If you look at it, you will see that I contributed a small part — I remembered the first version (1’06”) of the IDF video that was posted on 31 May, and compared it to the 29 second version that was subsequently released on June 4. This was the confirmation to all of us that the IDF had doctored, or at the very least “edited” the tape.
As Ali Abunimah wrote: “Thanks to Marian Houk (http://twitter.com/MarianHouk ), I have learned that the Israeli army originally uploaded a video (below) in which the same naval officer in the video above has an innocuous conversation with a ship in which the only reply from the ship is “Negative, Negative, our destination is Gaza.” There is no “anti-Semitism” or anything that paints the Flotilla passengers as raving bigots. The earlier video actually shows the officer moving, whereas in the previous video in which a speaker allegedly says “Go back to Auschwitz” we simply see a still picture of the same naval officer while the audio plays. This is further evidence of complete fabrication”.
I still haven’t gone back again to look at the 5’58” “unedited” version that the IDF released yesterday in response to our criticism of what we had discovered… but I will.
By the way, I’ve contacted the IDF twice and the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs once today, asking for the exact coordinates where the Israeli Navy boarded the MV Rachel Corrie… There is no reply. None. Would you happen to know?
About the coordinates- I should ask permission from Yvet to tell you
LOL, Marian, Yul
Instead of serching for the truth you are pathetically searching after IP addresses and coordinates. I am weak in geography, but I can contribute to your IP searches:
This is the simplest way. More sophisticated ways are used in countries ruled by dictatorships.
BTW, the knife looks fake indeed [n.b. from admin – see our next post, On Doctored Evidence, here]. The truth is the truth, and I will not pollute your site with it any more. So please DO NOT go to the following link and DO NOT search in the document there for IHH. If you do by mistake, do not forget to take anti-allergics.
I suppose you will search for the IP of the institute that published it instead of the reasoned info it provides.
You are also advised not to publish this comment. Otherwise people will think you are shamefully being taken over by hasbara gangs or whatever.
Good luck, nikkor1. You are fighting a lost war. Wish I could help you, but I have more important things to do.
To Shariat Madari:
The document (a 2006 study done for a Danish think tank or NGO which I will not attempt to categorize, either to endorse or to smear it) presents evidence, with footnotes indicating sources. This, of course, does not constitute proof.
I am not going to argue about the character of the Turkish humanitarian relief organization IHH, or debate the fine points of my own moral judgment — though I suppose it, like everything else, has evolved through time.
However, my own policy, as declared, is to avoid using the words “terrorist” or “terror” unless there is real empirical proof of an act of terror (+, even then, there are usually more precise and less value-laden words to choose to use) — and also to question the use of these words by others as labels in order to demonize, criminalize, “delegitimize” or even dehumanize their opponents, for this is both propaganda and incitement.
I have also described, in posts on this blog (check it out), what I saw when I was watching the live feed from the Mavi Marmara streaming on the IHH website. The participants in the Freedom Flotilla came from dozens of countries, and from various shades of religious belief and disbelief and the normally-associated cultures. There was probably also some sort of security provided on board — after all, there were over 600 people, maybe over 700 people, on board the Mavi Marmara. There were statements made both by Turkish and by European, American, and Israeli participants that they would not stop willingly, but would have to be forced. I saw journalists reporting that there were some vague discussions of possible resistance if attacked.
But those statements do not justify at all the Israeli assault at sea (in which Israeli soldiers were also recklessly put at risk by the orders of what is called in Israel the “political echelon” and by their own superiors, but that is what soldiers face), the terror inflicted on the passengers of the Freedom Flotilla, the deaths of a still-not-finalized number of people on board the Mavi Marmara, and the subsequent instances of mistreatment of the survivors (including denial of water, ability to go to the toilet, brutal beatings inflicted on some while in detention at sea and then on Israeli soil, apparently at will — indicating improper oversight by the responsible Israeli authorities — and the confiscation and loss of personal property as well as media working tools and materials produced for reportage).
I will, for the moment, leave to others the job of explaining the reasons for this behavior, and analyzing the possible policies behind it. But, I will ask the following question:
I wrote and published on this blog, on 6 May — more than three weeks before the assault at sea, a full description of what was shaping up. Some excerpts from my own article follow just below:
Can Turkey’s involvement help Free Gaza Flotilla challenge Israel’s naval blockade of Gaza?
A “Freedom Flotilla” is planning to sail for Gaza by the end of the month.
It will be the ninth expedition to try to reach Gaza by sea. According to the Free Gaza movement, this time it will be bigger and better than ever.
This time, there will be Turkish involvement.
This raises the stakes.
Some of the ships will reportedly be flying the Turkish flag.
This means that any Israeli attack on those ships would be considered tantamount to an attack upon Turkey.
The Free Gaza website says that “The Freedom Flotilla Coalition is comprised of: Free Gaza Movement (FG), European Campaign to End the Siege of Gaza (ECESG), Insani Yardim Vakfi (IHH), Ship to Gaza Greece, Ship to Gaza Sweden, and the International Committee to Lift the Siege on Gaza, with hundreds of groups and organizations around the world supporting the effort”.
The formation of this coalition was announced in early April in Istanbul.
IHH, the Turkish NGO, was founded in 1995, and has worked in Bosnia, Chechenya, Haiti. It is also, apparently, functioning in the West Bank. It was reportedly very supportive of the efforts to bring humanitarian aid to Gaza via Egypt’s Rafah crossing at the beginning of this year.
IHH says its basic objective is to assist those who are “distressed, victimized by war, disaster, etc, wounded, disabled, homeless and subjected to famine, oppressed”, and “to deliver humanitarian aid to all people and take necessary steps to prevent any violations against their basic rights and liberties”. See their website here.
IHH is calling this attempt “Noah’s Ark”.
What they are up against is a formally-declared Israeli naval blockade of Gaza’s maritime space (as defined in the map attached to the Oslo Accords, which is posted on the website of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs here)
There has been no announcement that the Israeli naval blockade has been cancelled.
Attempts today to seek clarification from Israeli Ministry of Defense spokespersons went unanswered.
A European diplomat says that the Israeli naval blockade is still fully in place.
The Freedom Flotilla organizers say that “In the wake of ongoing inaction by our governments to make Israel abide by international law, we – the citizens of the world – are taking action to stand up for justice”.
The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center in Israel, a monitoring organization, has posted a map that it says it got from the IHH website, showing a planned boat route from Turkey to Cyprus — and the map seems to suggest that a landing was planned in Cyprus — perhaps in the northern (Turkish-occupied) èart of the island:
A Cypriot diplomat in the region said today that “They wanted to stop at Famagusta, but we said no”.
(Jeff Halper said this was “a huge issue”, and now thinks there will now be no stops anywhere in Cyprus — the ships will try to sail directly from Turkey to Gaza.)
The Cypriot diplomat added that “We didn’t stop them, but we don’t encourage them to go — because of what happened last time. We don’t want to see people killed…”
The preparations for the Freedom Flotilla are, of course, being closely tracked in Israel. The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center in Israel is reporting here that “In the Gaza Strip, the Hamas administration prepares to receive the international flotilla, including deepening and cleaning the local fishing port. The works are carried out jointly by the Hamas administration Labor Ministry and elements in Turkey. The first phase is now nearing completion and works have begun on the second phase (savegaza.eu, the ECESG website, April 28)”.
According to a bulletin issued in early April, the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center said, here, that “the possibility that Israel will try to prevent the arrival of the flotilla has been taken into account. In response, numerous actions have been planned in order to make it difficult for Israel…It appears that the parties involved in the flotilla (‘the ship intifada’, as Jamal al-Khudari said) are taking into consideration the possibility of confrontations with the Israeli navy, creating a provocation that will be used by Hamas and its partners for propaganda and political gains”.
The bulletin added: “We believe that Hamas thinks that the presence of Turkish ships and activists will thwart Israel’s attempts to prevent the arrival of the flotilla, and can be used to (further) compromise Israel-Turkey relations”…
This was posted on May 6, here.
So, my question is this: If I, working entirely on my own, was aware of these implications, then certainly the vastly more powerful and resourced Israeli services knew even more. So how, and more importantly why — for what reason — did this disastrous tragedy happen?
A Holocaust psychosis characterizes the current regime ruling Israel … Now that this regime concludes that the whole world is against it, it has decided that its terror must extend over the whole planet. No doubt the ex-Stalinists Israel inherited when it sought to add Jews from Russia to fill its declining population are now in charge … The crudity of Israel’s explanations for its repeated reliance on escalating use of indiscriminate massacre of innocent civilians looks more and more like copying Soviet terror … The Biblical notion of “God’s chosen people” has been secularized to suit these blood-thirsty Stalinists who know no God other than brute force assuming a racist idea of themselves as historically inevitable rulers of the Middle East. Let us recall that Israel is the only nation in the region to possess a large stock of hydrogen bombs and, as “gift of the American people” the most up-to-date delivery systems … Understandably the region cannot feel secure in an area where the only nuclear nation has driven itself to a national Holocaust psychosis … Meanwhile, Israel is exsanguinating its educated youth who leave for a better future in the Diaspora soon after graduating from Israel’s renowned universities. Israel’s solution to its emigration is to instigate a Western Krystalnacht in reaction to the “World War IV” with Islam it is instigating, making Israel a “strategic liability” to all mankind. The Diasporic 75% of World Jewry is then expected to stampede in panic, immigrating to Israel to escape world rage. In 2002 Arik Sharon declared that any Jew who does not move to Israel by 2020 will lose his Jewish soul …
All this need not be. The US should save Netanyahu from the racist criminal gang of Stalinists holding him captive by cutting off all military aid to Israel (though guaranteeing its security against attack) until it comes to terms with the Palestinians for a two-states one-economy solution so that the Arab world will integrate it into the Middle East. Israel will never be a real state until it accepts the pre-1967 borders in return for full diplomatic and economic integration with the Arabs … It’s time for Obama to earn his Nobel Prize rather than cynically capitulate to a few billionaires who speak for no one but themselves for the sake of their campaign contributions.
Thanks, Shariat Madari, you need the luck too!
“So, my question is this: If I, working entirely on my own, was aware of these implications, then certainly the vastly more powerful and resourced Israeli services knew even more. So how, and more importantly why — for what reason — did this disastrous tragedy happen?”
You found very easy way to throw all responsibilty to the israeli side (yea, they are strong, they have helicopters and guns, so what?)
The point was: why did Israel have to use their helicopters and guns? Why did they let it get to that point?
“The point was: why did Israel have to use their helicopters and guns? Why did they let it get to that point?”
and there you have it folks. after every attempt to look away from the truth, we always, always get down to this point. ‘they killed people at will’…whats that? they were attacked verbally and physically? ‘okay, they killed people in self defense, but why did they have to?’
good grief. even this redneck can see how sorry this is.
that is just sad.
You know what? You guys are abusive, and I’ve had enough.
The thing is fabricated, even in the unedited version.
Segments were simply duplicated and slighlty pitchshifted to fake variation.
The were some very bad cuts:
1) Between “Shut up” an “Go back to Ausschwitz.
2) A small low frequency pop at the beginning of the 911-message.
3) While the woman was adressing that israels threats were unjustifed and was interrupted by inserted fake chatter.
4) When the guy’s message who said “Yehay, go navy” was inserted into other chatter.
The message of the navy guy was segmented and the segments just duplicated and audiowarped in some tiny parts to change duration and alter emphasis of intonation.
You can hear the duplications very easy if you put one of them on the left and the other on the right channel, as they’re nearly perfect in synch. The rhythm and the speech melody match excactly
I will challenge any audio engineer on this and provide examples with time stamps, if anyone is interested.
Thomas, would be grateful if you can provide examples with time stamps… but this would only be necessary for the 5’58” version that the IDF says is unedited, thanks.